Does the same paper submitted twice with two different affiliations (a prestigious university and an unknown university) have the same chance of being accepted?
I don't think author affiliation influence the acceptance of an article. Quality of the papers is the main point. Double blind peer review is also estimulated in scientific journals.
Dear Ouaïl Ouchetto
I don't think that the author's affiliation has an impact on the manuscript acceptance rate.
As per I know (having a few publications and reviewing experiences), there is no way to track the author of the manuscript.
Maximum reputed journals may have a double-blind peer-review process. As a result, the reviewer may not get the notification of the authors and vice-versa.
It can happen in non-reputed/ non-Scopus listed journals who are mainly publish the paper with a publication fee. As there is money involved, so there may not arise any issue regarding the author's affiliation.
Thanks
It should not influence the paper "destiny", but I have a feeling that it does influence sometimes...
Ouail, although each paper submitted for potential publication should be judged by its own individual merit, the fact that authors' names and affiliations are linked with the submissions tends to raise issues relating to possible bias. Would it not be ideal to operate within parameters whereby nearly everything is anonymous and authors' emails do not give any indications of what institution they may be from or who they are. Interesting....
I think so: the affiliation influences the chance of being published. The other handicap is not to be from an English speaker country. Don't you agree?
Dear Shuvro Sen,
Thank you for your contribution,
Unfortunately the most famous publishers and papers (indexed Web of science with Impact factor) do not apply the double-blind peer-review process.
Thank you dears Noha A. Mostafa, Jelena B Popović-Djordjević and Mahfuzur Rahman for your reply
Dear John Mendy , thank you for your reply.
the ideal is that the whole process of submission and reviewing be anonymous.
Dear Raquel Fernández-Cézar, thank you pour response.
be from a non-English speaking country, I think it's not a handicap. Example two papers from UK and Japan, I think they have the same chance
Maybe, but one from UK or USA and other from Spain, are not evenly treated.
It is better to talk not on acceptance/rejection in general, but on probability of desk rejection. In general, the initial evaluation of the paper is done by the chief or area editors and there is no blindness at all. A+ journals may afford (sometimes) to publish papers authored by persons from unknown universities, A- and B journals wish to put on their pages the papers produced in the most famous universities. So, the bias is obvious.
Yes, it tends to take more effort for an author from a little 'known' institution to publish in the prime pages of a journal. My observation!
Dear Igor Gurkov, you have summed up the situation and you have provided important information.
Yes, it is much easier for someone from "known" university to publish. Even country pkays a role in some cases.
Sometimes the title of the paper is important, even though there is nothing significant in its structure.
Hello dear colleagues
I believe that affiliation has significant influence on the acceptation or rejection of the paper. But it should be the content that prevails the acceptation decision.
Best Regards
Aleksander
I agree with you Janeš Aleksander , the affiliation can have a significant influence on the acceptation or rejection of the paper.
Hello, Ouaïl Ouchetto, you pose a good question. Although most journals attempt to adhere to good standards of ethical publishing, it is not always so when reviewers and editors review the work. The hope is that the journals use a double-blind process and that the reviewers are therefore unaware of the authors names, degrees, and affiliations when making accept/reject decisions and providing feedback. This way, the authors have the best chances of being published (or rejected) fairly based on the quality of the research/paper that they have submitted. That said, this does not preclude chief editors and managing editors from making biased decisions. My best recommendation would simply be to avoid those journals that do not have a double-blind process (if this is something you are worried about), and mostly to submit your best work.
Springer said recently that they had solid evidence about 107 papers in the investigation and found that the e-mails of the reviewers of the papers were false, and even the review reports were fake. The authors used the names of authorities in the field to apply for e-mails, and without the knowledge of those authorities, they used fake e-mails to recommend the papers to journals.
Agreed, affiliation of an institution influences, particularly it shortens the duration of acceptance. If author is affiliated to any established institution of his area there are more chances of acceptance compared to others.
As a confirmed reviewer, I don't think so. Editor and reviewers will check the content of the submitted manuscript and that's all.
Hello Anton Shufutinsky, Effectively, the hope is that the journals use a double-blind process. but unfortunately there are few journals that use this process. Thank you for your contribution.
Hello Chung-Cheng FU, it is the result of journals that require authors to provide potential reviewers during the submission process. Thank you for your contribution
Ouaïl Ouchetto
ThNks. In response to your response, I would say that most reputable journals do use a double-blind process for review. This is what is recognized as a standard, and is questioned when trying to index a journal with a particular indexing/approving authority. Some journals do also have a developmental process through which they help new and developing researchers through editorial processes to help them achieve publication of “good” research. But even most journals that do have this offer it as an option, not as the standard. I would say that most reputable journals, especially the highly valued one in any field of practice, do use this review process of the reviewers not knowing who the authors are and where they’re from, and vice versa. I review for 6 professional journals, and 5 of them are double-blind journals. The 6th is a newer journal, just getting going, and they are developing a double-blind process. One of the 5 that have it do offer a developmental process. But 3 of the (like many other journals) also have theoretical/editorial sections that they select/invite known researchers or authors to publish in. Most probably, the biases that may very well exist in some cases are either occurring at the assignment desk or by a managing editor after review, but not with the reviewer.
Thanks Anton Shufutinsky, it's a good thing if journals in your specialty applied a double-blind review process.
From my own experience, I know of two journals out of over 50 journals that give the possibility of a double-blind review process. These journals are (Q1 or Q2 in SJR) and in different fields such as mathematics, computer science, physics, engineering, medicine. So if you have a general list of journals that apply a double-blind review process, please send it to me.
This can be an important research question! I believe the quality of the research and article has merits. Human beings are liable for influences. Hence, assuming it is true and does affect the initial desk decision with the editor, I would suggest scholars from lesser-known institutes intensify their efforts and produce interesting and relevant research.
A good journal will be managed by paying attention to standards and reputation, so it will never play with a decision. The journal will use qualified reviewers and editors as well
ICMJE recommends that individuals whose papers do not meet the following four criteria be determined not to contribute to them so as not to affect the appropriate qualification.
1. A significant contributor to the concept or design of work outcomes, or to the acquisition, analysis, or interpretation of data on the results of work.
2. Key revisionists of the drafting or important knowledge content of the study.
3. Approver of the final version.
4. Committed to those responsible for all aspects of the research work to ensure the traceability and integrity of the research.
Dear Vikas Rai Bhatnagar , this is good advice for scholars from lesser-known institutes. Perhaps affiliation can influence the initial desk decision with the editor more than the reviewers when the all autors are not very known.
Raston Sitio , This is a very difficult question and we cannot know the answer with certainty. There are people who are influenced and others who are not.
Perhaps the best solution is that all journals use the double blind peer review. In this case, the editors and reviewers only judge the quality of the papers.
What do you think?
Dear Chung-Cheng Fu , thank you for the relevant information.
There are a lot of things which are very subjective and which remain relative.
In your opinion, why all papers have used a double blind peer review?
Dear Quali:
The merits and disadvantages of single-blind peer review and double-blind peer review have been debated in academia for many years. The main sticking point of a recent opening of a research institute for authors to choose which peer review is the Reviewer Bias issue. Most female and minority researchers support double-blind peer reviews because they believe they may be subject to strong discrimination in single-blind peer reviews, while most journals do not accept double-blind peer reviews.
I don't think author affiliation influence the acceptance of an article. Quality of the papers is the main point. Double blind peer review is also estimulated in scientific journals.
In my opinion, if the quality of our articles is good, consider it
Author affiliation doesn't really matter ... but I don't know if some authors have any different experiences of some journals,when they submitt
Ouaïl Ouchetto I think that this very much depends on the individual reviewers. I'm sure that occasionally reviewers are impressed by famous names, but then, even the most famous researchers can tell you stories about rejected manuscripts.
Of course.
I think there is rarely a double-blind evaluation.
Good Discussion.
Dear Chung-Cheng Fu , I agree with you, the most female and also researchers of third world countries support double-blind peer reviews because they believe they may be subject to strong discrimination in single-blind peer reviews.
The question why most journals do not accept double-blind peer reviews?
Quail Oucheto...most journals reject if using double blind peer reviewer,because they (reviewers) will save their work
Dear Flavio Maldonado Bentes , thank you for your contribution.
Unfortunately, less than 5% of Journals apply double-blind peer reviews.
Of course, we are talking about journals Q1 indexed in Web of Science database (with an impact factor greater than 2) and especially not the open access journals and not indexed in this database.
Frank T. Edelmann ,
I totally agree with you.
We cannot reduce everything to affiliation. If the author is known in a discipline regardless of affiliation, it can make it easier, the editor and reviewers take him seriously. But when all the authors are not known and they have an unknown affiliation, the paper is often rejected by the editor within 1 week and it is not even sent to the reviewers. I know several cases.
Dear Ouaïl Ouchetto ,
I don't think your affiliation can influence the acceptance of your work. I think the quality of content, authenticity of content, methodology, data and the presentation may affect.
I think the researcher are not that shallow minded to judge that way.
Thank you
Md. Mohayminul Islam , thank you for contribution.
this will be ideal if a paper is judged only on quality.
A researcher is just a human being like all people.
You know in life, there are people who are influenceable and others who are not.
An opinion is objective when it is based on several experiences.
Thank you.
So many factors contribute to the rejection or acceptance of manuscripts. This is one of them
Md. Mohayminul Islam I fully agree with Ouaïl Ouchetto in that this would be the ideal situation. However, reviewers are humans and not every decision is rational.
The major factor determining whether a paper is accepted or rejected for publication is the extent to which the article meets the publishing requirements specified by the relevant journal.
Dear Frank T. Edelmann ,
Obviously, I agree with you they are human being. Some times they can do look down upon a small institute and may reject .
what i wan to say a researcher we should be respectful to others. any one can do good job from any where.
so the affiliation should not be the scale of judgement.
Thank you.
Dear Ouaïl Ouchetto ,
Yes, I have just tried to said what should be the environment of review process. But Obviously, I agree with you. Reviewers also are human being. Some times they can be biased and look down upon a small institute .
what i wan to say a researcher we should be respectful to others. any one can do good job from any where.
so the affiliation should not be the scale of judgement.
Thank you.
Md. Mohayminul Islam normally only the quality of the reported research is crucial for the decision of acceptance or rejection.
I agree with the opinions of the professors, although they are clear, but they all affect in one way or another the acceptance or rejection of the research.
Dear Ouaïl Ouchetto
Affiliation may provide prima facie impression. However, I agree with Frank T. Edelmann that quality of reported research is the most important factor that decides acceptance/rejection of papers by the reviewers and/or editor of prestigious journals.
Thanks with personal regards,
Arbind
dear Frank T. Edelmann ,
I was also saying so sir.
Rejection or acceptance is not in our hand but we can improve our quality of work.
Thank you.
Dear Ouaïl Ouchetto , Arbind K. Choudhary and Md. Mohayminul Islam personally, as a reviewer I never cared about the authors' affiliations and I never checked how big or small their institute was.
To my knowledge, we are the smallest Chemistry Department in Germany (only 4 faculty members), but apparently this never played a role in the peer-reviewing process of our papers.
In the case of publishers issue low-quality periodicals or seminars for purely profitable purposes. Such journals and conferences often falsely claim no bias to have professional editors, peer review, High Impact Factor, etc. to induce authors to make contributions, only for the collection of expensive manuscript processing fees. Predatory journals not only hurt the money and research efforts of individual scholars but also bring a pseudo-scientific atmosphere to the academic environment.
Dear Frank T. Edelmann ,
That's the sign of your greatness and this is the spirit of research, sir.
You are doing great job, sir.
thank you.
Frank T. Edelmann , I don't think the number of the team is important. One thing is certain, if a paper is bad, even if it is sent from the best university in the world, it is not going to be accepted in a prestigious journal. But if the same paper is submitted by two unknown researchers, the first from a famous university (top 10) and the second from a small unknown African university. Will these papers have the same chances of being accepted?
Ouaïl Ouchetto in this (theoretical) case some influence of the authors affiliation cannot be ruled out. However, it would be interesting to know if such an experiment has ever been carried out.
Frank T. Edelmann , I know many people who have done their PhD in Europe at famous universities, after returning to their country of origin, they noticed a big difference about the treatment of papers.
Yes , but with small effect!!
In my opinion, The component s in the order of their influence volume were: the subject (recent or not), the quality of study ( good/bad), the volume of affiliation, the Authors (professor/doctor.. etc.), the number of affiliations (in article).
Dear collegue Mohamed Farid Benlamnouar , I agree with you, there are several parameters that influence the acceptance or rejection of a paper.
One thing is certain, if a paper is bad, even if it is sent from the best university in the world, it is not going to be accepted by a prestigious journal.
But if the same good paper is submitted twice by two unknown researchers, the first from the best university in world and the second from a small unknown African university. Will these papers have the same chances of being accepted?
No, of course not!!
Because university classification plays an important role when papers are approved for publication, and on the other hand, international journals are very related to the big universities and advanced economies (funding, support and reputation.
Ouaïl Ouchetto please see this interesting link entitled 'Eight reasons I rejected your article' in which 8 scientific reasons for rejecting a paper are outlined. I think that any one of these plays a more important role than the authors' affiliations.
https://www.elsevier.com/connect/8-reasons-i-rejected-your-article
Dear colleague Mohamed Farid Benlamnouar , thank you for your interesting contribution.
Frank T. Edelmann , thank you for the ineteresting link.
the interpretation of each reason of these eight reasons remains very relative. All of this is not an exact science. The proof is that sometimes the comments of reviewers are very different. Indeed, some reviewers find the paper interesting and other find it uninteresting.
Ouaïl Ouchetto yes, of course, everyone can tell you stories about contrasting reviews (including me). However, every Editor (perhaps you know one in person) will tell you that there are many scrap manuscripts that must be rejected.
Sometimes affiliation matters. But I think author's experience or popularity in that field much more matters.
The core value of the researchers’ paper lies in product innovation, improvement, and differentiation, not in the contribution of a degree.
Prathvi Raj Chauhan , I agree with you that the popularity of the author matters much more than affiliation.
We try to discuss the influence of the affiliation in the case where the authors are not popular for two universities. The first is a university from a developed country and the second is a unknown university from a third world country.
Frank T. Edelmann , yes there are many parameters that come into play in contrasting reviews. In this case, the editor makes the decision. Sometimes 2 out of 3 reviews are positive and the editor accepts the paper and sometimes 3 out of 4 reviews and the editor rejects the paper.
Ouaïl Ouchetto all such situations happen regularly to every researcher who publishes frequently. In the case of two contrasting reviews, renowned journals often ask an "adjudicative" reviewer who then has the final say.
Frank T. Edelmann , of course all situations happen to researchers who publish frequently. I recognize that the comments of the reviewers are sometimes very relevant and improve the paper, but sometimes the comments show that the reviewer did not understand anything.
Ouaïl Ouchetto if you are honest to yourself, you will certainly agree that the vast majority of all reviewers comments greatly helped improving the quality of your manuscripts. Of course there are occasional exceptions...
Frank T. Edelmann , I will not say the majority but a part. It's not that the other party doesn't want to help, but it can't.
Let me explain, each one works in a very specific field and journals often do not have reviewers very specialized in any theme within a single discipline. So sometimes there are reviewers who do not master the discipline and their comments are irrelevant. But there are reviewers who give very relevant comments and They even give ideas for further research. But I assure you, I am honest with myself :)
Ouaïl Ouchetto
People say even affiliation is a reason for acceptance and rejection. But I think, for and for most, it is the quality of the paper that determines the decision.
Ouaïl Ouchetto I fully agree with you that this could certainly be a problem in very specialized fields. Perhaps we are lucky that in chemistry it is fairly easy to approve of disapprove the reported facts.
Frank T. Edelmann , indeed, everything depends on the discipline. That's why everything is relative.
Even a paper is rejected but the comments are relevant, we must say thanks for this reviewer.
Ouaïl Ouchetto in my replies to the reviewers I have a standard sentence saying:
"I thank the reviewers for the valuable comments which greatly helped improving the quality of the manuscript." This includes even the most stupid reviewers...
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