Lori. Metaphysics. Outside the realm of scientific method. Any reports can only be anecdotal reports, untestable. I could tell you I heard from my aunt fanny about uncle ted’s whatever and it would only ever be a story, fiction, invention. Untestable, unprovable, unreliable, unremarkable. A belief system like every other belief system. Personal choice regardless of how honestly you hold those beliefs. You have got the wrong forum here, my friend. Jonathan