Some readers complained that "engineer" is being used to describe too many positions, including garbage collectors, mechanics, and technicians. Should professional organizations step in to protect the title?
Well , not in places where it is regulated , in Canada ...
P. Eng is a designation that is evaluated by Engineers for Engineers to claim that ...
Well , not in places where it is regulated , in Canada ...
P. Eng is a designation that is evaluated by Engineers for Engineers to claim that ...
Hi, for example in France, the title Engineer is well recognized and important as we have high level schools of engineering (Polytechnique, Mines, Ponts, etc..). The title of Dr. or Prof. is associated only to research. In US it seems that the titles of Dr. and Prof. are the most important at the opposite.
In the Netherlands, we have a PDEng (Professional Doctorate in Engineering) title, which can be obtained by educational programs belonging to the third phase education according to the Bologna Agreement. This is higher level than MSc, lower than PhD, but most importantly it recognizes knowledge-enabled innovative practices and high-tech industry oriented competences.
It may be irritating at first but "Engineer" (short: "Eng" )is not a title but an "attribute" (like Sc, BA and so on). Thus it is important what's prefixing the "Eng": Dr.' Diploma, Master, Bachelor. "Engineer(ing)" is just the attribute describing that the person's field of application has somehow to do with "technical aspects" - an extremely wide field.
I note with regret that respondents (except for P.Eng Murthy) are merely swapping grades of academic education for engineers. When what is needed is formal recognition of the competence and qualifications (and societal value) of professional engineers. But then this is a complaint that's been bruited for my entire working life. It's about time we did something about it, instead of just complaining
@ James Toal
Individuals may get recognition - eventually expanded on some profession (typical: medical doctors).
As an engineer, you are more or less "invisible" for the wider public. And there are so many different engineers. Thus it is only too natural that engineers - aside from some individuals - get hardly recognition. I really do not care about this, because this is not the reason why I chose to hecome an engineer.
Recently, operators of railroad trains, broadcasting equipment, boilers, and aircraft systems have long been given the title of "engineer”. Further, just about any activity that involves planning or scheming is now described as “engineering”. This title should be more specific in describing a particular set of engineering functions. Engineers are those who graduate from the following engineering programs (mechanical, electrical, electronic, chemical, nuclear, civil, computer, etc).
Dear Dr. Haj Aliwi, the fields of engineering you mentioned are the 'classical' ones. Nowadays there are many engineering programs and specializations in, e.g. information engineering, knowledge engineering, cognitive engineering, industrial engineering, communication engineering, etc. In addition there are many inter- and multi-disciplinary programs too, such as biomedical engineering, industrial design engineering, bioprocess engineering, etc. This underlines the fact that there should be a negative answer given to the otherwise very relevant question of Dr. Saad Alkadhim if the title "Engineer" has been becoming meaningless. The need for modern engineering is growing in an innovation society.
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